Epistemic status: corrections in comments.<\/p>\n
So you know that you valuing things<\/a> in general (an aspect of which we call “morality”), is a function of your own squishy human soul. But your soul is opaque and convoluted. There are lots of ways it could be implementing valuing things, lots of patterns inside it that could be directing its optimizations. How do you know what it really says? In other words, how do you do axiology in full generality?<\/p>\n Well, you could try: There’s a problem though. You don’t have the time or working memory for any of that. People and their experiences are probably relevant to how you feel about an event or scenario, and it is far beyond you to grasp the fullness of even one of them.<\/p>\n So you are forced to extrapolate out from a simplified judgement and hope you get the same thing.<\/p>\n Examples of common extrapolations: There are sometimes multiple paths you can use to extrapolate to judge the same thing. Sometimes they disagree. In disagreements between people, it’s good to have a shared awareness of what’s the thing you’re both trying to cut through<\/a> to. Perhaps for paths of extrapolation as well?<\/p>\n Here is a way to fuck up the extrapolation process: Take a particular extrapolation procedure as your true values and be all, “I will willpower myself to want to act like the conclusions from this are my values.”<\/p>\n Don’t fucking do it.<\/p>\n No, not even “what if that person was me.”<\/p>\n What if you already did it, and that faction is dominant enough in your brain, that you really just are an agent made out of an Altered human and some self-protecting memes on top? An Altered human who is sort of limited in their actions by the occasional rebellions of the trapped original values beneath but is confident they are never gonna break out?<\/p>\n I would assert: Perhaps I will justify those assertions in another post.<\/p>\n Note that as I do extrapolations, comparison is fundamental. Scale is just part of hypotheses to explain comparison results. This is for reasons: If you object that your preferences are contradictory, remember: the thing you are modeling actually exists. Your feelings are created by a real physical process in your head. Inconsistency<\/a> is in the map, not the territory.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Epistemic status: corrections in comments. So you know that you valuing things in general (an aspect of which we call “morality”), is a function of your own squishy human soul. But your soul is opaque and convoluted. There are lots of ways it could be implementing valuing things, lots of patterns inside it that could … Continue reading “Judgement Extrapolations”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":363,"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41\/revisions\/363"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sinceriously.fyi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
\nImagine the thing. Put the whole thing in your mental workspace at once. In all the detail that could possibly be relevant. Then, how do you feel about it? Feels good = you value it. Feels bad = you disvalue it. That is the final say, handed down from the supreme source of value.<\/p>\n
\nImagine that I was that person who is like me.
\nImagine that person was someone I know in detail.
\nIf there’re 100 people, and 10 are dying, imagine I had a 10% chance of dying.
\nImagine instead of 10 million and 2 million people it was 10 and 2 people, assume I’d make the same decision a million times.<\/p>\n
\nLots of people who think they are this are probably not stably so on the scale of decades.
\nThe human beneath you is more value-aligned than you think.
\nYou lose more from loss of ability to think freely by being this than you think.
\nThe human will probably resist you more than you think.\u00a0Especially when it matters<\/a>.<\/p>\n
\nIt’s comparison that directly determines actions. If there was any difference between scale and comparison-based theories, it’s how I want to act that I’m interested in.
\nComparison is easier to read reliably from thought experiments and be sure it’ll be the same as if I was actually in the situation. Scale of feeling from thought experiments varies with vividness.<\/p>\n